Is Becky exploiting 4chan for profit AND to kill JREF?

‘You are obsessed with Becky’

Becky's narrative is that this wordpress takes much time and or effort, i do it on my ipad, takes seceonds

This is an exclusive behind-the-scenes look in my crib. It’s how I criticise Becky. From my iPad. Yeah, it takes so much effort and time…. NOT. I must be ‘stalking’ her because I dare to shine a light on her demonstrably false claims.

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So, back in 2011, I signed up for a FREE WordPress and Twitter account, both called ‘Elevatorgate’. It took a few minutes. Yeah, I’m SUCH A stalker .Oh god, how audacious of me to use my critical thinking skills.

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I really was dormant, for a very long time.

I was initially a little disgusted by Becky’s behaviour re: Elevatorgate but I moved on. (I was vexed that the show that actually taught me about groupthink; about religions and cults being on a spectrum; about logical fallacies; about critical thinking, was being raped.

So, back in 2011, I had concluded:

  • Regarding the elevator incident. I’ll let Becky have that one. Lifts are confined spaces and she’s within her rights to feel uncomfortable. I would get annoyed if someone made eye contact with me a lift, let alone try and chat to me for the first time. (unless it was a hot chick)
  • I thought she was extremely petulant and vitriolic towards Dawkins, but whatevs, he’s not a little bitch, he can handle it.

    • Let’s be charitable and say she was right about the lift incident. Becky and Amy and Mandy Marcotte continue to pass out their radfem koolaid. They continue to attack women who disagree with them.

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    As someone who doesn’t attend or care about Skeptic events, why do you feel the need to expose Becky’s misconduct?

    Even though I had stopped listening to SGU, I don’t want to see JREF and SGU destroyed. I care about herd immunity. I’m selfish like that. I might be hospitalised and unable to take antiretroviral drugs. I don’t want to see science raped by nutters because it will impact me. .

    As a skeptic, it’s my *duty* to call out Becky’s dogmatic behaviour.

    Becky Asks for Applause, for having me barred from an event, that I didn’t even know existed

    becky slanders critic - see youtube video

    Before June/July:

  • I had no idea who Surly Amy was
  • I didn’t know Greta or the other FTB drama queens were

    • Fast forward to June/July 2012. I was bought here by the lolz. It was this video:

    Incidentally:

  • I didn’t know who ‘Justicar’ was before June/July either. (he is a funny, nerdy gay who has an affinity for maths)
  • I didn’t know who Paula Kirby was. I don’t read stuff, I watch videos, that’s how I get my info. (If somoene does an audio version of their aritcle, and it’s very interesting, I might consume it).
  • I tend to get all my info from podcasts – including SGU (until 2011)

    • My return, June(ish) 2012

    I was stunned by the dissent being shown. I had, before this dormant period, just resigned myself to the fact that conference-going atheists/skeptics are toothless, or gullible.
    I have never attended an atheist or skeptic conference, and I doubt I ever will, because, quite frankly, I’d rather go to the kind of dance events with glow sticks. (I don’t mean to demean all you intellectual niggas who attend conferences; it’s just not my idea of fun.)

    So to recap:

  • I was glad that other people had been dissenting, I didn’t think anyone would have the courage
  • Not only did this delicious dissent exist, much of it was hiliarious

    • So Here We Are

    Becky & Al continue to produce a car crash; it’s just impossible to look away.

    All I ask from you, dear reader, is to consider that Becky might not be telling the truth. Yes, much of the bile directed at her (see: her page of hate) is sickening. The previous sentence, and the supposition that she is being dishonest, is not mutually exclusive:

    Are Becky et al. goading ’4-chans’?

    witch, communist, misoginist

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    Is this Becky’s business model?

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    Think of the consequences if Becky’s dastardly plan works:

  • 4chan will go bankrupt!
  • JREF will go bankrupt!
  • The good people trying to promote reason and logic will be jelly & mad
  • Becky’s radfem cult will fill in the void. Patriarchy & privilege will be the new ‘psychs’. Instead of screaming ‘What are your crimes?’ to critics, it will be ‘Check your privilege’

    • The consequences will never be the same again.

    Pulse: response to Slate article

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    18 Comments on “Is Becky exploiting 4chan for profit AND to kill JREF?”

    1. ASOT says:
      October 26, 2012 at 10:26 pm

      Very curious about the actual events in question. I have read what she has to say and while I feel Mr. Dawkins and the elevator gentlemen behaved less than graciously, I can’t help but feel there is a lot more to the story. Would you be able to shed some light? I realize this website is largely for that, but this seems to be a long on-going thing, whereas I was hoping for short and sweet. If you don’t feel like explaining, that is completely understandable. Thanks for your time!

      - a seeker of truth

      Reply
      • ASOT says:
        October 28, 2012 at 11:08 pm

        You could have simply said you weren’t interested, not responding at all really lowers the credibility of the site. :( not sure what to think now. Thanks anyway, I guess I’ll search for answers elsewhere.

        Reply
    2. Walter Ego says:
      October 27, 2012 at 5:33 am

      Are Ellen Beth and MyCatsAreMyGods the same person?

      Reply
      • elevatorgate says:
        October 27, 2012 at 3:42 pm

        Yes

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        • Walter Ego says:
          October 27, 2012 at 10:48 pm

          Are you sure? Ellen Beth is in the video of Watson’s speech in Florida uploaded by the Cat Lady which means someone besides Ellen Beth recorded the speech. The reason I ask it that the Cat Lady blocked me from commenting on her You Tube channel after I asked her how much Watson may have been paid to speak in front of that audience of old white men and noting that not all the thumbs down votes were from MRAs (I voted thumbs down and am not an MRA.) I might record and upload a bitchy video called Ellen Beth Hates Fags (i.e., me) if I can confirm the Ellen Beth and the Cat Lady are one and the same.

        • elevatorgate says:
          October 28, 2012 at 1:51 am

          I’m almost certain that it’s her youtube account : http://www.youtube.com/user/MyCatsareMyGods/feed?filter=1

        • Walter Ego says:
          October 31, 2012 at 4:09 am

          Here’s the video. The Cat Lady (EllenBeth Wachs) Hates Fags… but only if they are MRAs LOL.

    3. HARASSMENT AT CSICON - with policy too says:
      October 28, 2012 at 11:22 am

      CSIcon has an anti-harassment policy
      Policy on Hostile Conduct/Harassment at Conferences
      http://www.csiconference.org/about.php

      At CSICON:

      1:31 PM – 28 Oct 12

      Elyse Anders
      ‏@dELYSEious
      Pro tip: Guage a woman’s interest BEFORE trying to kiss her and spending the weekend following her around. Seriously. Please.

      Elyse Anders
      ‏@dELYSEious
      @sashapixlee Dude tried to kiss me Wednesday night. Spent the rest of the weekend following me around. Almost cried when I said I havve kids

      Elyse Anders ‏@dELYSEious
      @sashapixlee No. Tonight he asked me if I was “a member of the skepchicks”. He doesn’t even know about Elevatorgate.

      Reply
      • elevatorgate says:
        October 29, 2012 at 12:23 am

        interesting, thanks. I made a storify and tweeted it:

        FYI, it’s great you copy pasted. I also think it works if you just use the URL of the tweet. (WordPress parses the content)

        Reply
    4. Skepticat_UK says:
      November 3, 2012 at 10:28 am

      “Obsessed stalker” doesn’t begin to describe it. You are one sick fuckwit.

      Reply
      • elevatorgate says:
        November 3, 2012 at 9:34 pm
        Reply
      • deminthon says:
        December 4, 2012 at 8:15 pm

        Typical comment from a stupid intellectually dishonest faux skeptic elevatordramatrix.

        Reply
    5. buddhaglass says:
      November 4, 2012 at 6:45 am

      Revenge Of The Cat Lady!

      Reply
    6. buddhaglass says:
      November 9, 2012 at 4:24 am

      Return Of The Curse Of The Revenge Of The Cat Lady (Watsonista and President of the Florida Humanists) The Final Meow?

      Reply
    7. iain carstairs says:
      November 26, 2012 at 11:39 am

      Why does everyone have to have the same viewpoint? Watson expressed her feelings, Dawkins expressed his, elevatorman his too.

      Why must everyone justify their viewpoint and gnaw away at everyone else with sarcasm and sting them in the groin with witty zingers, and measure points (ad hominem: 1 point straw man: 2 points logical fallacy: 1 point etc etc) until they agree? It will never happen. You can’t argue for peace any more than you can bomb for peace.

      It just wastes colossal amounts of energy. It’s self obsession gone beserk

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      • Thaumas Themelios says:
        November 29, 2012 at 6:39 am

        Why are you getting involved in it, and trying to discourage others from being involved in it? Can you not see the irony of that?

        The solution to this problem (and it is a real problem) is not to *avoid* the problem. Your own post here demonstrates that you at least partially agree with that.

        I happen to agree with you that sarcasm and zingers can backfire, causing more drama, and thus be counter-effective. But when you make a comment to discourage that, you need to provide a viable alternative, not just to say, basically, “Why can’t we all be friends?”

        You agree that there’s a problem of colossal wastage. And yet, the wastage continues. If ignored, it will not go away. It is a self-sustaining problem. The actors involved *devote* time and energy to *generating* more and more conflict. They feed on it.

        This is a problem that must be confronted, or it will just fester and get worse. The key is to learn how to *confront* the problem without feeding it. It can be done, and is not actually that hard to do. But it requires getting people to adopt slightly different tactics in their discussions, debates, blogs/comments, etc. And in order to convince people to adopt different tactics, it requires one to *get involved* in the trenches, and to *demonstrate* better tactics that work to defuse drama and bullshit without feeding it. That’s what I try to do, anyway.

        This thing has been going on for about a year and a half now (if not somewhat longer, depending on where you draw the lines). Like religion, it will not go away unless people speak up about it and challenge it. Like religion, there is no ‘one best way’ to defeat it. Some ways work better than others, depending on people and circumstances. We need to continue to try more and diverse ways of confronting it, as long as we can be sure that we don’t cross any lines of ethics in the process. That’s how to get these kinds of problems behind us.

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    8. innomen says:
      January 27, 2013 at 5:14 pm

      Shared this on G+ FYI: https://plus.google.com/115056313943520401920/posts/cjgZg2SwHmY

      Snippet of full comment:
      “So radical dogmatic “#feminism” has decided to attempt to take over and declare war on skepticism? How positively awesome. I could not have chosen a better enemy for them.”

      I wish I had had backup on SU years ago. I was absolutely driven out by a similar mob because I had the audacity to question the assumption behind the wage gap.

      Much later I was vindicated.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html

      But at the time any assertion that the wage gap was caused by anything other than conspiracy was tantamount to declaring war on vaginae. The mob successfully silenced me by getting me on probation, where one more complaint would result in a ban, at which point a corrupt SU admin miffed because I dissed a dev tea party self love post banned me at 4am a full year later.

      That whole thing still annoys me from time to time. These people are bullies, plain and simple. Free speech shouldn’t be conditional. The easy solution is to make any statements acceptable. Etiquette is becoming the new censorship and dragging everyone into a pit of meta discussion from which their goals and movements may never free themselves.

      Reply
    9. vat beer says:
      March 30, 2013 at 2:01 am

      Hope you can tweet this reworded quote, I think Becky will appreciate it

      http://i.imgur.com/wb1FPLX.jpg

      Reply

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